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Posted: Monday, June 4, 2012 4:00 pm | Updated: 5:13 pm, Tue Jun 5, 2012.

Shamso Ali was about an hour into her shift at Dianne's Fine Desserts in Le Center Monday morning when she and the other Somali women on the day shift were told to either change their dress or leave the facility as part of a new dress code policy company officials say was implemented for safety.

Ali and the other 10 Somali women -- many from Faribault, Le Center and Mankato -- chose the latter. They were then joined by the 20 or so Somali men also working the day shift at the facility, which employs about 250 people.

"I could not believe it was happening," Ali said later Monday morning as she stood outside a prayer center in Faribault. "They asked, 'Will you go change your skirt?' I said, 'No I cannot.' 'Well then you need to leave,' they said."

Monday marked the first day of a new dress code that restricts dresses hanging below the knee at Dianne's Fine Desserts because of safety concerns.

Muslim women typically wear either a headscarf, called a hijab, or a head-to-foot, loose fitting burqa known as a jalabeeb. They are not allowed to show any skin beyond their face and front of their hands -- meaning the long dress is necessary.

"If you can see anywhere else, that's basically like she's showing off her body," said Abdul Abdilahi, one of the about 20 men who chose to leave the Le Center facility with the women. "They are asking our ladies to show a part of their body and we are saying they cannot do that. We cannot change our faith and our religion because of what they're asking us."

Local Dianne's Fine Desserts officials referred all questions about the incident to Mike Knowles, the new company owner as of three weeks ago. Because Knowles is based in an office in Massachusetts, he said he did not know all of the specifics of what happened Monday morning at the facility.

"What I know is that, quite frankly, we thought we had an understanding with everyone last week and something happened over the weekend," Knowles said. "This morning when the first shift came in some employees chose to not abide by the new rules."

While the group of Islamic workers say they believe the rule was changed as a way to "force them out" based on their religion, Knowles pointed to an incident two weeks ago when a woman's long dress got caught in a boot washer -- a floor machine that washes footwear and is required for plant sanitary guidelines.

According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission website, employer must reasonably accommodate a worker's religious beliefs or practices unless doing so would cause undue hardship -- including compromising workplace safety.

Calls to the EEOC office for further comment were not returned by deadline.

Despite there being no injuries -- nearby employees were able to help the woman get unstuck -- Knowles said the local management team decided something needed to be done to prevent any further incidents.

"When there's a safety incident like that you can't just ignore it," he said. "We thought we came to a reasonable solution. We addressed the safety issue by saying no skirts below the knee but that workers could wear slacks or pants and tuck them into their boots."

But the skirts ordered by the company, in the eyes of the Somali employees, are far too short.

"The skirts they are showing are extremely high, they are way up there," said Asher Ali, leader of the Somali Community Center in Faribault. "It's like something a model would wear. It's just too much."

Knowles said the workers were also given the option to wear slacks or leggings under their knee-length skirts.

Asher Ali said he planned to act as a mediator between the company and the workers.

"I want to help the people understand each other," he said Monday afternoon.

In the mean time, a night shift including more than 30 Somalis is expected to arrive at the plant by 7 p.m. Monday. Knowles would not comment on the employment status of the 30 workers who left mid-shift Monday morning except to say the incident left the facility leaders scrambling.

"People can't just walk off the job," he said. "We want to run that facility but we need employees to help run it. We have raw ingredients on the floor, orders needing to be shipped, and they are down there trying to keep things together right now."

Fartun Husein, another worker who had to leave her shift at the facility because of her dress, said she was anxious to get back to work.

"We are here to work hard. Our clothes don't work for the company, we are the ones working hard every day to produce for them. You cannot just treat people this way," she said. "We want to go back. We want to work but we cannot because, you know."

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  • AuggieDoggie posted at 6:04 pm on Tue, Jun 12, 2012.

    AuggieDoggie Posts: 51

    Go to your place of worship on Sunday. Listen, share and feel well. Know to whomyour coins are offered and for what purpose. BLENDING of cultures...ahhhhhchoke, choke!

  • fixdit posted at 3:00 pm on Tue, Jun 12, 2012.

    fixdit Posts: 1

    I understad the desire to accomodate different cultures, the key word being try. Americans have adapted to a blended culture and that also means thos new comers need blend with the rest of us as well as we with them. I can assure if the employer allowed the long attire to remain simply because it was less headache and an employee gets injured, there will be law suits and litigation all over the place and the employer would again be the bad guy. I hope this company stands its grounds. If you cant work under the job rules of the company to fit that employers needs within reason then by all means practice the freedom you got when you entered this country and leave for another job, its your choice. Choices and consequences, thats life.

  • secretsquirrel posted at 9:16 am on Tue, Jun 12, 2012.

    secretsquirrel Posts: 279

    I think that was an expression of political/social conviction but conviction of faith. After re-reading the comment about what country starts wars in the middle east, I am wondering if I misunderstood which country she was referring to and that it was Israel rather than America and our support of them spurs hatred of our country by the Arab world? That makes more sense to me and, to be honest, I don't blame them. I blame us for being so involved in politics over there.

  • DontSayIDidn'tTellYaSo posted at 3:03 pm on Mon, Jun 11, 2012.

    DontSayIDidn'tTellYaSo Posts: 8

    Somalia--The world is nothing to you???? Then why did you come to America? I have never heard anyone make a comment as idiodict as you just said.

  • FatBroad posted at 9:21 am on Sun, Jun 10, 2012.

    FatBroad Posts: 301

    I understand who and why people are upset but I think that compromise will be a problem too for the same reasons. It hardly seems fair to businesses, it's like everything is stacked against them on these things.

  • secretsquirrel posted at 7:43 am on Sun, Jun 10, 2012.

    secretsquirrel Posts: 279

    PJM - Compromise requires common sense and fair play. Nether of these elements ever seem to manifest themselves when it comes to religion.... any religion. I am sure that some denominations have more relaxed laws than others. Some only require the headdress while others are far more orthodox and require the burkha/burqua.
    I'm mostly annoyed by the fact that we have to create special classes of citizens in the interests of equality effectively defeating the whole point of equality. Regardless of the stated justification and I am tired of having to pay the bill directly or indirectly for these things. Maybe the answer is to create parochial businesses in the same model as parochial schools? That would allow people to make employment choices based on secular/nonsecular options.

  • PJM posted at 3:20 am on Sun, Jun 10, 2012.

    PJM Posts: 1

    Is there some Islamic law that says they can't wear blue jeans? There must be some possible compromise here.

  • secretsquirrel posted at 11:31 am on Fri, Jun 8, 2012.

    secretsquirrel Posts: 279

    Somalia – I want to start off with a compliment: What an absolutely adorable baby! [beam] If I understood your comments correctly, I agree that the U.S. contributes to many wars by inserting ourselves into these situations.
    I would prefer to see the U.S. staying out of these countries and letting them figure things out on their own. For all our advocacy for rights and freedoms, we seem to contradict ourselves with our foreign policies by getting involved in the politics of other countries with the sole purpose of imposing our ideals on others. What gives us that right?
    Let the inhabitants of those countries find their own way, saving American lives, time and money by doing so. Virtually every third world country we have “helped” has quickly come to resent us and turn on us. Almost every one of them has snickered at American naiveté as they take our arms, our money, our food and use American resources to train the very people who hate us (UBL anyone?) so they can stab us in the back later on. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran and Somalia immediately come to mind.
    Regarding religion: There is an enormous difference between western religion and eastern religion, Christianity and Islam. That difference is that where you come from, religion IS the government. Numerous tyrants have taken it upon themselves to overthrow governments and impose a martial system in the name of Allah. The end result is always despotic and inflicts great suffering on the people. If that were not true, none of these people would make any effort to come to the U.S. Here, religion is not supposed to be a part of the government. Maybe the moral intent of religion is present but religion itself is not supposed to dictate our nation's course. That's where a lot of resentment comes up for the typical American. I am not a religious person but Americans whose roots are deep in Christianity have watched their own government undermine Christianity's presence in their lives (school Christmas programs being renamed Winter programs. Easter programs being called spring programs etc. because they were deemed to be unconstitutional or violations of some other religion's civil rights) over the past 30 years or so. Suddenly, public dollars MUST be spent to develop "prayer rooms," the concept of "hate crimes" is developed and implemented as a separate set of laws to provide greater protection for specified groups. Tree huggers jumped on board by the millions to prove their open mindedness and love of their fellow human being It backfired on them. Now they see that by giving special status to specific groups instead of enforcing the existing laws, these groups are MORE protected and receiving MORE government support than the rest of us. This was an effective way shut people up and protect the continued erosion of American culture. Conspiracy theory? I don't think so. I do think, however, that we have finally been beaten down and shushed enough to where people rarely voice their opinions.
    I really am grateful that you have joined the discussion because these threads are always one sided, thus nothing new is learned and no new perspective is gained. I hope that you continue to offer "your side" and maybe that will help a lot of us get a better grasp of the many different things that motivate people to take the positions they have and maybe it will create some understanding on your part as well.

  • Soitgoes posted at 7:06 am on Fri, Jun 8, 2012.

    Soitgoes Posts: 1053

    Well, if we are to believe what we can get from the news, those starting the wars are usually inhabitants of said country. Including Somalia. If you're looking to lay blame on that one, look in the mirror. Also, if I'm not mistaken, these same wars are usually based on/in religion - Muslim. There's some more mirror time.

  • somalia posted at 7:49 pm on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    somalia Posts: 1

    I disagree all of the people who said they agree the new rule or saying something bad about somalia people.You know we are muslims and are religion is way important than jobs becuse this world is nothing to us.Whats is important to us is to protect our beautful religion.And I totally get mad about people posting that America gives alot thing to somalian for free I know the government support somalian refuge and bring American I respect that but do you know who destroy islamic countries.Every muslim country is in war because of this people who are starting war.I hop All Islamic country would become peace.

  • AuggieDoggie posted at 6:24 pm on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    AuggieDoggie Posts: 51

    If you allow it...they will come. Hey, NICE Minnesota, Today Sami folk, tomorrow Tuni folk. At your peril? You decide.

  • whitecollar posted at 9:18 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    whitecollar Posts: 635

    I took your sarcasm and added some of my own. I agree that there is a great deal of ignorance on the subject of Somalia but I see no ignorance on the subject of assimilation and seeming arrogance. I think you would be surprised at how many people have visited Somalia, particularly in the early 90's. It's not a nice place and not at all the welcoming and inclusive environment we strive for here.
    If you were to spend a week at your parent's home, there would be certain social expectations that you would abide by. This is more about respect and compliance than whatever went on in Somalia or a willingness to accept people.
    You do not see poorly dressed Somali men hanging around. They are quite well dressed. They are very sociable and generally have a good sense of humor. One of my kids has a very close Somali friend who frequents our home. This friend is fun, engaging, respectful, well mannered, articulate and kind. Those are the standards in our home. If this friend were white, obnoxious, rude or lazy, I would not allow them in my home. These standards are universal in our family and the way I see it, holding all people to such standards suggests that we feel they are capable of attaining them. If I were to visit the home of a Somali family, I would bend over backwards to respect their social and cultural standards. I would never walk into their home and expect them to not be offended by me wearing a large crucifix around my neck.
    This is not cultural, it's safety. It's also social. We can accept different cultures into our own and should. But we are not being asked to accept their culture we are being told to genuflect to their culture and that's just not going to happen.

  • offleash posted at 9:11 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    offleash Posts: 717

    "sense of entitlement to all we have to offer" I dunno. That statement seems to say that they're adapting to the American culture quite well.

    Let's re-state a few things and see if it's OK by consensus:
    --If you don't follow the rules and decorum of a graduation ceremony, you're just another stoopid American who just won't go anywhere in life.
    --If you don't follow the rules your employer and your government gives you so that you perform your job safely, you're just another stoopid American who just won't go anywhere in life.
    --If you expect people to agree with you and follow "your way" without taking the time to understand the other side, you're just another stoopid American who just won't go anywhere in life.
    --If you think your success is based on others doing for you w/o doing anything for them, you're just another stoopid American who just won't go anywhere in life.

    That's the neat thing about where I live. The neighborhood has a smattering of stoopidin it. Turns out that the stoopid are a combination of caucasian, Mexican and African. The non-stoopid are a combination of caucasian, Mexican and African.

    In my 'hood, it ain't the color of your skin. It's the content of your character (and your rap sheet) that gets you a dirty look. So stop doin' 45mph on a resi street, stop whoopin' it up at 3am and leaving beer cans to blow in the wind, and stop thinkin' I'm gonna help you dig out of a snowstorm b/c you aren't prepared. (As to the last, it's an unspoken "thing" that those of us who are prepped for a storm help each other out, then go to work while the rednecks stare and wonder why we left them!)

  • lundson posted at 8:46 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    lundson Posts: 1

    STAND YOUR GROUND, Dianne's. Every job comes with dress codes, safety criteria, etc. If an employee doesn' want to abide by these, they can choose to not work there.

  • seriously posted at 8:42 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    seriously Posts: 4

    Whitecollar, my term "tribe meeting" was a sarcastic attempt to show how truly ignorant people are being on this subject. These people are not barbarians. They are just as civilized as any of us. They are treated by many American's as if they are a lesser people because of their culture and faith. It's a lack of understanding that creates this barrier. How can you say that they would not be afraid of losing their culture, which is essentially a person’s identity, when fleeing from their homes? Your comment about the lack of gratitude and sense of entitlement is very much a generalization of the people. Have you not met people born in America who have this same mentality? Don’t forget that the majority of the population in the U.S. that is being served by our government programs are born right here in the United States. Perhaps it is not the Somali people who feel a sense of entitlement, but our own. I doubt very much that the majority of the U.S. if put in their situation would find a way to assimilate to their culture, even if it was mandatory. American’s would fight it every step of the way. We are very much known for forcing our culture and beliefs on to others, and have for centuries. It’s the American way or the highway regardless of whose highway we happen to be using.

  • Chrismoo3 posted at 8:27 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    Chrismoo3 Posts: 30

    It seems to me the company has bent over backward far more for the Samali community than they would have for others. This is a question of safety and nothing else. Unfortunately, it should have been addressed years ago. The company came up with alternatives that will accomodate everyone. In an aside; I couldn't help but laugh at Knowles comment, "People can't just walk off the job,". I hate to say it but, yes they can.

  • Alfred E Neuman posted at 8:05 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    Alfred E Neuman Posts: 156

    Anyone ever notice the little facebook icons that scroll on the right side of the main page showing who has 'liked' this site? My favorite is the girl and her boyfriend that regularly pop up as he is giving the entire readership the finger. Amusing. I'm going to guess that this site cannot block specific facebook members from liking them or the images they display. That could prove interesting.

  • Soitgoes posted at 6:16 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    Soitgoes Posts: 1053

    Gee, Seriously, I think that's the point most of us are trying to make. IF we were to go "over there" women would not have a choice but to "put away their tank tops and shorts". I believe it would be MANDATORY, or be killed. Even women newscasters are expected to wear the required clothing just to report from "where ever". That's the issue. "They" think they don't have to follow the same rules as "we" do once they get here.

  • whitecollar posted at 12:29 am on Thu, Jun 7, 2012.

    whitecollar Posts: 635

    seriously, seriously?
    You are as filled with assumptions as anyone else. A "tribe meeting?"
    It wasn't their culture they were afraid of losing, it was their lives and limbs. So, coming here made sense. It's the lack of gratitude expressed by their community for the safety and security living here provides them, the sense of entitlement to all we have to offer.
    Not all have that attitude but enough to make things like this newsworthy. Most people would accept new cultures that are willing to adapt and assimilate into our own. No one is asking them to forfeit their identity or attempting to subjugate their beliefs. Just assimilate and don't exploit the freedoms we enjoy here at the expense of others.
    If we continue to allow an uncontrollable influx of immigrants into this country it just MIGHT be us facing a mass move to Somalia. Do you think they have an SCLU or Christian Society to protect special 'rights' for Christian immigrants in Somalia?
    This isn't about the Somalis, it's about all people who seem to be needy and constantly demanding MORE rights over those who paid for those rights with the blood of their fathers, sons, uncles and brothers. Some of those payments were made in the streets of Mogadishu and other parts of Somalia. Those things tend to stick in people's minds.

  • seriously posted at 11:06 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    seriously Posts: 4

    I am utterly appalled at this thread. The facts of what has happened seemed to have disappeared in a quick attempt to bash the Somali community. I doubt if there is anyone in this thread that has ever had or attempted to have a conversation with a Somali person. I think if you stopped forming generalized judgments, and made an attempt, you might be surprised. I have met many intelligent, driven, and hardworking Somali men and women in my lifetime. Many of you have made comments saying that “they” should go back to their country. Have you really forgotten why/how the Somali presence has come to be in the United States? They didn’t have a tribe meeting one day and decide to invade. They sought relief from terrible circumstances. How dare any of you suggest that because these people refuse to lose their culture that they should be sent back to their country to face the possibility of such brutality. If it were “us” going over to Somalia how would we handle the situation? Women, would you put away your shorts and tank tops and trade them in for hijab and jalabeeb because that would be the norm? It is unlikely.

    Just so there is no confusion, I agree that there should be a dress code that creates a safe environment at Dianne’s. Unfortunately the company did not dedicate enough time to research the issue before they came up with a new policy. It was sloppy work and they will end up paying for it one way or another. I am sure that there has got to be a better solution than to tell women that they can put pants on under their skirt. Hopefully the company and its workers can come to an agreement soon before either ends up suffering long-term consequences.

  • Soitgoes posted at 10:49 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    Soitgoes Posts: 1053

    @Joe22 - so what's disgusting? The special treatment afforded them BECAUSE of their race, or the fact that most of the comments are "littered" with truth?

  • Joe22 posted at 9:24 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    Joe22 Posts: 1

    It is a safety concern... Ok. We can accept that and try to move forward. The comments left below are littered with ignorance and racism. I'm disgusted by such filth.

  • kea posted at 7:54 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    kea Posts: 3

    It sounds like a lot of people are fed up with their disrespect for rules due to their "religion". Thank you for someone finally standing up to them. I am sure there are plenty of local workers who would give anything for a job..
    At the grad ceremony in Owatonna Sunday, it was emphasized --no cheering or clapping until the end of the ceremony. Did the Somolians respect that request? Of course, not....they do as they please and clapped and yelled and cheered for every Som student, delaying the next student in line. All the while walking around, thru and among the audience thru the entire program. Why should we respect them , when they have little respect for OUR culture. Time to stand up for OUR rights. We give them everything they ask for---far beyond what any other refugee gets and we get nothing but excuses for their blatant disrespect for our way of life. We give, give, give, now it is finally their turn to adjust to OUR culture!!

  • secretsquirrel posted at 6:41 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    secretsquirrel Posts: 279

    Wow Jamal, too bad they didn't work at the Woolen Mill, we could have picked up some bedsheets on the way to our cross burning. This might be America but it's not 1930's America.

    The only way any of this is going to get sorted out is if we petition our representatives to affect change.
    If we can place caps and tariffs on imports, we should also be doing the same for immigration. That's not racist, it's realist.

    The declaration of Independence may have claimed the pursuit of happiness to be an 'inalienable right' of man but the constitution never guaranteed we'd find it.

  • FatBroad posted at 6:22 pm on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    FatBroad Posts: 301

    This is going to be like our thread on the OHS Somali assault. I guess each town has to go through it before something changes.

  • Joe posted at 10:01 am on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    Joe Posts: 1

    What bothers me here is the claim that it's for religious beliefs. If they truly were being targeted for termination why would they have been hired in the first place?
    The policy provides for alternatives to the knee length skirt, and accomodates the muslim religions cover it all mentality for women, which in itself is discrimination.
    There is NOTHING in the Koran about the style of clothing, only that the female body must be covered, the choice of what covers the body is up to the individual. The belief that is must be this loose garment is incorrect. Every worker who left should be fired for cause, the women for violating the dress code and the men for abandoning their posts.

  • Alfred E Neuman posted at 7:41 am on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    Alfred E Neuman Posts: 156

    @ FactsJack
    Yes, they will more than likely receive unemployment if they quit because Minnesota labor law allows an employee to walk off a job if "unreasonable" demands are made upon them. No liberal labor judge will deny them compensation for fear of reprisals.
    The unemployment system is a strange creature because it is defined as unemployment insurance and the employees indirectly contribute to it through their employers because the cost is figured into wages and benefits. Any other insurance payment received for loss in Minnesota is NOT taxed but unemployment insurance IS. Why is that? Since unemployment is taxed, some of that money goes toward paying for welfare, food stamps, medical assistance and other benefits that are NOT taxed and being paid mostly to immigrants.
    Thus, even if they do not collect unemployment they will surely collect welfare and either way not only will working people be paying for this, so will NON-working people who can least afford to pay for this.
    It's a wonderful system we have. We [ay to fight their wars, we pay to feed them in their own countries, we pay to bring them here, we pay to feed, clothe and provide medical care for them here and even if they are working, we pay for their subsidized housing and school lunches here.
    We are all bigots with big wallets. Someday we will all be "equal." Until that day we nasty American must be punished and pay for the living expenses of the rest of the world.

  • sportsguy posted at 5:31 am on Wed, Jun 6, 2012.

    sportsguy Posts: 21

    If they don't like the rules they can all go back where they came from.

  • blackhawkdown posted at 7:06 pm on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    blackhawkdown Posts: 1

    I have to say I agree with everyone here. Do you even think for one minute that there country would change even 1 thing for anyone from here? In fact they would rather shoot anyone from here that any thing else. Just look at all the benifets the most people get from the state and local government. They should buck up and so what we all have been doing for so long. What our great great grandparents set forth. So if you don't like it well then just leave.

  • Factsjack posted at 12:15 pm on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    Factsjack Posts: 297

    Hopefully these people don't receive unemployment because they quit!!!!

  • sleeplessinmn posted at 11:33 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    sleeplessinmn Posts: 1

    I am a former employee at Dianne's and I was a witness of the many accommodations made to Somali employees by the previous management. They were allowed extra time breaks to pray while all other employees had to continue working. They were allowed to celebrate their holidays on location, and while other female employees could not wear skirts at all, nor nail painting, Somali female employees were allowed. Now they want to play the minority/victim card.

    I'm glad to hear that under the new management, work rules apply to all employees regardless of race, creed, nationality and so on. They don't want to follow the rules, perhaps they should change jobs.

    PS: This is not the first time they walk out when they don't get their way. The former head of Human Resources quit her job because they did the same thing after "one of them" got fired.

  • rosie posted at 10:09 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    rosie Posts: 1

    I'm sorry but what makes them think they don't have to follow rules,EVERYBODY else does.and its not like they are saying you have to wear a short skirt.they are giving them the option of wearing pants underneath the skirt so no skin is showing.YOU COME TO THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR RULES OR GO BACK HOME

  • auggerman22 posted at 8:24 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    auggerman22 Posts: 15

    Eastern - I have to totally agree with you!!!!
    Now go read the article about the Somalian that would not stand up in court because of religious beliefs. They are taking the beliefs too far...you want a job so you can give money to your God to have to accomodate your employer.

  • hoggin247 posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    hoggin247 Posts: 8

    Nice job Diane's, way to stand up! I hope the boot washer was not damaged by the burka last week.

  • mnmommy posted at 6:38 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    mnmommy Posts: 1

    As an employee everyone must follow the dress code rules. This includes EVERYONE.

  • Eastern posted at 1:11 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    Eastern Posts: 10

    Where can I find me some of Dianne's Fine Desserts? Glad to hear of a company that will put the safety of its employees ahead of a group that's playing the minority card. Why is it that some people still haven't heard of "when in Rome, do as the Romans"? The proverb goes back to 390AD. I've lived overseas and felt compelled to try acting as local as I could out of the respect of those who welcomed and sponsored me. Long dresses probably caused workplace accidents during WWII (that's World War 2 for those not in the know) too when it was common for women to work factory and assembly jobs. Choices had to be made. Women excelled and we won the war too! Now some might have to rely on public assistance again or more, depending if their earnings were properly reported. But then again, the Rice Cty Social Svcs dept is so backlogged... Here's an idea, why not check out to see if Hormel is hiring. Some bacon sounds great to go along with a chocolate/fudge dessert from Dianne's right about now.

  • whitecollar posted at 12:31 am on Tue, Jun 5, 2012.

    whitecollar Posts: 635

    Of course the comment from the Whitehouse will be: 'If I had a factory, all of my workers would look like these people.' I really, really hope that the president has the sense NOT to comment or get involved.
    Why can't the dress code address both safety and Somali custom? I'm no expert on Islam but simply wearing leggings of some sort beneath a skirt that does not fall below the knee should be an acceptable compromise to both sides I would think. The OSHA rules seem very clear and very reasonable.
    I also understand that people must abide by the rules of their faith but I know of no faith that requires a host culture to abide by those rules nor change their laws and safety practices to do so. If the outfit being worn by the lady holding the sign in the photo is typical of work wear, there is no way that can safely be worn around machinery.
    It will be interesting to see what comes of this. As for what happened over the weekend, I would bet a week's pay that it had something to do with a lawyer or the ACLU.

  • Soitgoes posted at 10:08 pm on Mon, Jun 4, 2012.

    Soitgoes Posts: 1053

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Can you just hear the ruckus if the one caught in the machine had actually been injured, or worse?


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